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.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on senior republican leaders who are ready to strike a deal. they want to push off negotiations until the debt ceiling vote next year.ç president obama won't have it. the president is attacking the only leverage republicans have left. the president spoke to a group of ceos today and said that he will not negotiate if debt ceiling is going to be used as a hostage. >> i have to just tell you, that is a bad strategy for america, it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. so i want to send a very clear message to people here. we are not going to play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they're goin
pounding in the election, is their repeated attempts to reach out to the women folk. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: somebody in the republican party pointed out that mitt romney won white women. so that's proof that they don't have a chick problem. >> is that true? >> stephanie: yeah six points worse among -- what do you call -- romney's performance among white women was six points worse than among white men. but he technically did win white women. >> not this white woman. not the white woman i speak with. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: yes, the president won women by double digits. but, yes, the white women apparently love that mittens. >> hum. >> stephanie: here she is in the current news jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody. the president and vice president are scheduled to meet with state governors at the white house today just after 10:00 am eastern to talk about ways to balance the budget then at 12:30 the president's first post-election interrue. anticipate plenty of discussion about the counteroffer on the fiscal cliff. and the gop would avoid toxin cre
's leadership. then came president obama's election in 2008. health care reform igniting the tea party movement and then demint quickly became a leader and re hetorical flamethrower. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. >> but demint had no significant legislative impact or victories regularly bucking the republican establishment, supporting senate candidates close to his own view of conservatism with, of course, mixed success. >> i've been criticized by some of my republican colleagues for saying i'd rather have 30 republicans in the senate who believe in the principles of freedom than 60 who don't believe in anything. >> he was an early supporter of florida senator marco rubio. now the gop star, incoming senator cruz who tells mike lee all on the demint list. while 15 won primaries just seven are united states senators today. many party leaders, in fact, blame demint for high-profile senate losses in indiana, delaware, colorado and nevada and in a statement made yesterday minority leader mitch mcconnell said this. i thank senator demint for his uncompromising servi
of refers appear to have forgotten something happened in november 2012 called a presidential election. >> right. it was an election in which president obama, unprecedented for a democrat, actually ran on a platform of raising taxes. he said, i'm going to raise taxes on the top 2% and he was re-elected resoundingly with it. to what ron said, if it's only $14 trillion, what's the big deal, go ahead and let the rich pay it? that's number one. number two, the other thing that's been exposed and what's true, what's always been true about conservativism is that the core principle is the rich don't pay too much, they pay too little. when they say things like broaden the tax base, they think it's a moral hazard to have a progressive tax code. you want a flatter tax code for those with less money pay more into the system. republicans have tried to talk around that because that's anç unpopular thing to tell your tea party base, middle class people, no, we think lower income people and middle income people should pay more. but when we strip away all the rhetoric about job creators and the rest
me as possibly suspicious. philadelphia has been a place that's had some pretty irregular election procedures in the past. >> we had a lot of people come out on election day, so that's great. what i want to do now is sit down with the secretary of state and say how can we improve this. >> with sometimes scary sometimes shaky claim of voter fraud and lawsuits of voter i.d. six and seven 8 hour waiting lines this was ugly contentious election. one of the rising stars of the republic party pushed through a tough photo i.d. requirement in his state. we will talk to chris about it. niger the racial quality believes that efforts to crackdown on voter fraud are actually aimed at cutting down votes. so niger, welcome to you, secretary kobach welcome to you. secretary to you first, is this one of a certain magnitude or really is a solution chasing a problem? >> well, there is no question we have voter fraud pockets of it all over the countrifully kansas, even where you know, you wouldn't knowsly think of there being a long history of voter fraud we had 235 cases that we had identified befor
that pain that can hold these elected officials accountable and to act for responsibly. the reality is that, i have worked in in town 20 years, politics rules the day. the dose of reality, the pain, shut down of maybe -- shut down of the government services and operations. that type of pain, i think is the only thing that is going to, in the long run, get these folks in town to make sure this doesn't happen again and to act responsibly. as you said at the kickoff of this show, to really kind of look at these government programs and see if they are really necessary. >> you are talking about thousands and thens of government job, agencies going out of business, at least temporarily, economists saying if this doesn't kick in, we could go into a recession. >> it's time for bad-tasting medicine for this nation. the election is over. but have you a president that thinks he has the moral high ground, as a result of the election on the tax issue. and you have the republicans that have an identity crisis and are ignorant. we need to walk away, the extreme wings of both parties ad have reasonable peo
wants. >> yeah. >> stephanie: serious plan. they are like they won the election. >> it is totally farfetched and they are like i don't understand why he doesn't want it. >> stephanie: all right. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news. >> good morning. we already know that ashley judd can show a much wider range of emotion that some. she has been taking steps to assess her options when it comes to running for office. she is doing opposition research on herself to see where she might be most vulnerable. mcconnell will be running for his sixth term another option is to run against senator rand powell in 2016. there is a briefings tomorrow on the september 11th attack on our console consoleate attack in benghazi they the talking points were watered down by the cia. it said the notes did contain reference to al-qaeda but the cia took it off. elizabeth warren has won a spot on the banking committee. sources are also saying that senator joe mansion will have a seat on the panel as well. that's good news. we're back after the break. stay with us. ♪ to me all the
. >> this is embarrassing. >> he's the problem. >> he's willing to act like the election never happened. >> we're not getting anywhere. >> we're going over the cliff. >> it's the gop who has been short on specifics. >> i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. >> the same exact policies. >> this shows that republicans are really chicken hawks. >> you can't be serious. >> chicken hawks when it comes to reducing the debt. >> get serious. >> we're not getting anywhere. >> the path to nowhere. >> be prepared for the plunge. >> i would say we're nowhere. nowhere. >> there's clearly a chance. >>> today, john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan finally kind of sort of responded to the president's budget proposal, a proposal of their own that they were so unmarried to that they didn't put their names on it. they said the whole thing was erskine bowles' idea. they summarized the testimony that the bill clinton chief of staff last year gave about what he thought might kind of be a workable budget deal way back then. because bowles is a democrat, the republicans thought they he could try to preten
of hirs campaign. he thinks he won it. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the season and whether you're counting the days to the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, christmas day, or judgment day, there's much to do and not much time to do it. as for us, we're counting down the minutes to house speaker john boehner who will be lighting the capitol christmas tree 234 just about an hour. if you're among the wealthiest of americans, then, boy, does boehner have a gift wrapped for you. in republicans' counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff, the rich get to keep their bush era tax cuts, even as the boehner budget slashes $1.2 trillion in spending, half of it from medicare, medicaid, and other social programs. it is a lump of coal del
democrats could be over playing their hand, that, yes, ey won the election, not a land slide, doing what george bush did when he was re-elected, the social security thing, just over played his hand. >> well, i don't think so because don't forget, the public polls, which for lack of a better barometer, what we all look at, people blame republicans more than democrats. neil: recession ensues, it's on everybody. >> exaly right, but barack obama doesn't have to run again. very cognizant of th fact. i'm not, you know, i'm not the grim reaper about this. i believe we are going to get a deal. it's going to be a bad deal because nobody will be happy. the purpose of this is to have pain inflighted on everyone, nobody gets 100%. we'll have tax hikes as well. neil: why i featured the union coming out, is it makes it tough. it's obviously union playing their hands arguing, and they could make acompelling case for this that they helped barack obama get re-elected. brought out the base much more than the republicans did, and they could take edit for that. they are more or less saying this ad, i think,
a whole month to digest that election day data, where you'll find those who voted for every presidential winner since 1956. that's in today's deep dive. i'm chuck todd feeling a little clogged up as you might hear. the fiscal cliff counteroffer has one thing in common. the differences between the new republican plan and what the white house proposed are stark when it comes to taxes. the gop calls for $800 million in new taxes. it's half of what the white house asked for. republicans to $67 billion. the gop plan changes how security benefits would be calculated. why he favors tax rates instead of eliminating deductions. not enough revenue. less revenue equals more cuts in education. republicans ruled that out saying the new revenue would not be achieved through higher tax rates which we continue to oppose. they were referring to an erskine bowles plan that he testified to in the fall of 2011. the white house made it clear that's a nonstarter and they won't even respond until the gop puts forth a plan that includes a tax rate hike. the obstacle continues to be republicans who hold out hope
it by going to electoral war with his own party leadership. in the 2012 midterm elections demint threw his weight behind marco rubio in the republican primary for florida's senate race. despite the fact that the national republican senatorial committee and republican leader mitch mcconnell endorsed charlie crist in that race. marco rubio went on to win that primary and that senate seat. demint also backed rand paul in his primary. that was a fight, by the way, that took place in mcconnell's home state of kentucky and mcconnell endorsed the other guy. the not rand paul. but paul won. he won his senate race in kentucky which was deeply humiliating for mitch mcconnell. but demint has also backed a lot of candidates who won their primaries but did not go on to win their general elections. like christine "i am not a witch" o'donnell if you remember her. demint backed the not a witch candidate and she lost big time. he backed todd aiken of the legitimate rape comments and mourdock of the other rape comments. the reason jim demint isn't in the majority today is because of jim demint. but jim demi
it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step down. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> are you kidding me? >> he doesn't have a law to his name. >> he has been a singular failure as a political strategist. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> the disarray of the republican party. >> there is no progress. >> they don't know what they stand for. >> no progress. >> they don't know what to do. >> no progress. >> they have some real soul-searching to do. >> today the united states supreme court -- >> the supreme court used this afternoon -- >> said they would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. >> it really is an incredible day today. >> important social issues. >> the defense of marriage act. >> on the table for the supreme court. >> will the
that say we're putting revenue on the table, the american people did that when they elected, you know, the president and a democratic senate again. again, they have to agree to a deal or tax rates on everybody go up. i think we should do everything we can to avoid that for as many people as we possibly can. >> so far, four house gop members, as we said, john boehner has booted them from key committees for going against leadership. you're obviously the deputy whip. you are part of leadership. you have challenged john boehner. i mean, what you put out there, it may sound -- may sound very normal and calm and compromise-filled to many. but perhaps to him, it's a little bit of a slap in the face. have you talked to him about it directly? >> yeah, of course. i mean, look, i deal with the speaker on a regular basis. and he knows, look, i'm never going to undercut him and he knows when the tough votes come, and they're going to come, that i'll be there to try and support him and help him. so he's not going to scold me because i offered in private, you know, my advice that was solicited and t
on medicare by 12 points in the last election, even though they lost the election overall by three points. in fact, john boehner's cageyness about saying what he actually wants to do is par for the course in this debate. that is actually the norm for the politics of medicare. and the reason is a deep contradiction at the heart of our national conversation on the issue. medicare is massively, overwhelmingly popular. it is very successful. which mean people in the country, voters everywhere, love medicare and do not want it to be cut. and wonks in washington, d.c. spend their time trying to figure out how to cut medicare. both democrat and republican. and with this very thorny contradiction in mind, politicians and think tank analysts and the like have developed a whole secondary-coated language to talk about medicare. so premium support instead of privatizing medicare, and structural medicare reform instead of raising the eligibility age. now, remember the context for all this. this is important. remember that phrase we first started hearing at the start of the health reform debate, which
. barnicle. thank you, john. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i think they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house. but, you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. we need to find common ground, and we need to find it quickly. >> good morning. it's monday, december the 3rd here in new york city. the christmas tree all lit up. with us on set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle, pulitzer prize-winnering historian jon meacham, author of "thomas jefferson." "fortune's" assistant managing editor leigh gallagher and political analyst, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele. and i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off today. there's so much to talk about, but we do have to begin with the ties, if we could. it's not just mike. mike's getting all the focus here this morning, and that is inexcusable. >> could i just say, in the words of speaker john boehner, we need to find common ground here, and we need to do it quick. >> there ain't going to be any between these two ties, my man. over
the election. i've got the political upper hand here. i need more than where we were in 2011 because we had a whole election in 2012 focused on almost exactly this issue. the white house thinks they have the political upper hand here. this response is boehner saying, not so fast, mr. president. >> in terms of -- i know you don't have details on the medicare. are there any details on where the revenue comes from? in terms of exemptions and loopholes? do we know if all the exemptions and loopholes are taken off the table? for example, if mortgage and charity is still there? >> we just have detail describing this as revenue through tax reform. presumably there would be some changes to the revenue code that would get you the $600 billion -- i'm sorry, $800 billion in additional revenue the speaker is talking about here. where he gets that from, we'll have to get that answer from the speaker's office. you can imagine right now their phone lines are scrammed and operators are not standing by. >> thanks. you have to start somewhere. >> let's get reaction. s & p capital, jeff cox at cnbc headquarte
if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how do you respond it to that? >> well, that's just utterly preposterous. the republicans right now in the house of representatives have a bill that would extend the middle class tax cuts right away that has passed the senate that they could take up next week when we come back. they could have already taken it up. we have a lot of time, and the republicans refuse to give certainty to the middle class. the president said he'd seen this bill right away, and then the rest of the issues we need to sort out we can hash out over the next few weeks before we reach december 3
go up just a little bit. we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an issue with the poll microphone for the president's address so they've handed him a different microphone, the leaders inside this room can hear exactly what the president is saying but his audio is too low for us to be able to share it with everybody. we're still working on that. when we see and hear about the fact this two-step plan getting something done for the middle class by the end of the year, does this set up the scenario we live in a perpetual state of fiscal cliff loopness, this is the same old dog and pony show every six months to a year fighting over the same things and not big, bold leadership? >> i hope no
the election. >> exactly. these are savings, about a third of which were reducing the subsidy for insurance companies providing medicare advantage programs and the rest of them pretty much cut to providers and we didn't reduce services. we expanded some while leaving money over the long term and the cbo said the affordable care act will save $1.2 trillion. again, we need to be careful what we do with the medicare portion of the social safety net because we've actually made some significant changes that have yet to play out. >> all right. thank you very much, sir. we greatly appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> now, ab stoddard, erin mcpike and keith boykin. a.b. let's start with you. let's read what senator demint and senator paul had to say about the proposal of boehner and the republicans. the $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. if neither party leadership puts forward a serious plan, we should end this charade. ran paul says, one party proposes $800 billion in tax increases to counter them and continue to be the low tax small government party. the other party leadership
on the right last time just before the election when you saw a lot of people who just didn't believe the number, didn't want to believe it, but i think the growth in this number, the consumer confidence we've seen, some of the good trending economic data is part of the reason why barack obama won this election. consumers, job seekers are basically feeling a little bit better. the trend is good. i think that was the margin of difference here in large part for the president. >> i want to bring in our panel here and ben, you're an expert in all things related to the economy. ayman thinks these numbers have strengthened the president's hand here. i guess continuing in the vain of what's up is down and down is up, in some ways doesn't it sort of hurt the broader argument, though, from the left regarding unemployment benefits and the payroll tax cut? these are parts of the fiscal cliff negotiations we have not paid a lot of attention to, and also the white house's argument about further stimulus spending, undermined by this notion out there based on these numbers that the economy is recovering? >> ye
as dependency on government grows and they like you dependent on them. usually after an election there is a period where good governing can occur, but not with this president. this has become a never ending campaign 24/7 of dividing america. if you're critical of susan rice for giving the nation false advise on libya, yo you are a racest and you hate women. the first step in saving america is to recognize that the greedy and selfish people live in washington, and if americans finally see the simple truth, we can save america for future generations. joining me now with his thoughts is fox news contributor and, of course, syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. why is it we never hear about greedy washington politicians? >> well because as you say, people define greed as sort of the a private quality. the idea that you're spending other people's money is considered norma noble and comps nat. that's how you define compassionate conservetism in the bush years. you come up with programs in africa or the prescription drug benefit. that's a demonstration of compassion. it's actually a
and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers up $800 billion in new taxes without upping tax rates at all tea party leaders say higher taxes shouldn't be in any form because it is not what republicans stand for. south carolina senator jim demint went so far as to call on supporters of his senate conservative fund to call senate republicans and ask them to oppose what he's calling the boehner tax hike. the looming question for re
, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's not where he used to be. he's quadrupled the amount of taxes he demands. he now has to have rates instead of just numbers. it's going to be interesting what he is doing but it appears he's not trying to come to any agreement. his position is one that the senate, the democratic senate, has rejected in the past. >> robert reish, 60% of americans according to a new abc news/"the washington post" poll believes they should raise taxes on those over $250,000 a year. presumably president obama has seen these polls. so if there is a fiscal cliff and w
with the republicans. >> that's it. >> and that's -- that is the lesson of his election. >> instead of backwards the way he did his first two years. >> exactly right. >> axelrod is coming on tomorrow and we've taken that mustache off. if it's way too early it's "morning joe." stick around right now though for chuck todd "the daily rundown." >>> take it to the bank. timothy geithner says the white house is ready to go over the cliff. republicans might stucmble, though, into having some leverage if they end up backing the tax rate plan now and kick the rest of the can to february. one top republican governor has some stinging sarcasm for his own party's position. in the middle east the situation in syria turns from serious to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan's president hamid karzai talks about his country's future and ongoing insecurity and blames the taliban of course. guess who else? nato and the united states. good morning from washington. it's th
this, he's trying to distance himself from it right now. >> the president got re-elected. he's claiming he got re-elected in part because he wants to tax that 2%. he cannot go back on that. in the meantime, congress most of the republicans signed the grover norquist pledge which says you cannot tax that 2% more than anybody else. you can't increase the taxes. so we're at a stalemate and someone has to give and i don't see anyone giving right now. >> bank of america today commented on the let's jump crowd. the bungee jump crowd for which they think is a scenario. >> you wonder how much of that is in negotiating position. embraced early on by senator schumer, new york state's senior senator. we'll see. you know, there are those who believe if you want deficit reduction and are serious about it, we have one way to get there and it's called the fiscal cliff and will send us into recession but we may get deficit reduction but others believe we won't get spending cuts that we need. more will take place in defense which many argue does need to happen perhaps though not in the same way it does.
you make of the election battle? pretty bruising and nasty. they don't seem to have learned very much on either side of how to get things down for the benefit of america. >> i mean, i'm not the first person. there are countless people who have said that the gop's casting department has to be fired. and restaffed. because this was a race that was theirs for the taking. i mean, obama was ripe for the taking. i don't know if i agree that that was deservedly so but they really, really could have brought him down and the vice presidential choice was critical. if you had romney who was plenty conservative for most people i know maybe not red states, christian conservatives, he needed a woman on the ticket. >> i was amazed he didn't go for another demographic. if he got marco rubio or rice assuming they would do it but -- >> if he went for meg whitman of california running for the senate and the chair -- the ceo of hewlett-packard. a serious woman as opposed to palin and the race in 2008. if he took a serious woman, he might have hosted a chance, i think. >> on obama, i mean, he ended up fig
face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff since the election. that meeting took place more than two weeks ago. >>> the kansas city chiefs suited up and took the field today against carolina. that's despite the shock and horror of yesterday's suicide of linebacker jevon belcher. stay right there with full details in a full report on cnn in just a minute. >>> high winds and heavy rain are pummeling the northwest. the rainfall will continue throughout the day. some places have already seen a foot of rain since yesterday. people living in northern california, oregon and washington state are bracing for rising rivers and possible mudslides. >>> supporters of mohammad morsi blocked the high court from indefinitely suspending all court sessions. that would suspend a ruling on the drawing up of egypt's new constitution. president morsi declared his decisions are now immune from judicial oversight. >>> it is a frightening and deadly scene in japan. just look at this. at least two cars are still trapped inside a highway tunnel after a massive section of the concrete structure collapsed. polic
if it falls apa apart? >> yeah. they just won an election. their position on policies are much more popular than the republican positions are and they're willing to go over the cliff. going over the cliff for them is not the worst of all possible worlds. they get the tax position that they want, they get spending cuts that they can basically live with, and obama is capable of managing the economic fallout of it. that's another reason why i think it's important that geithner is the front man here, that geithner is the type of guy who can talk to the street in a way that's very assuring. >> the street, not the streets. >> yeah. >> also if they -- if we go over the cliff, i mean, the republicans then look like they let it happen all for the 2% as michael was saying because that's what this becomes about. that's not something they want. it doesn't put them in a good position. to some degree this is a choreographed dance that has to happen. they cannot come to a deal without a humongous fight. >> this is also the white house i think has managed the optics well on this and dubbed it the great rea
on everything. and it also means that elections have consequences. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> tonight, jay carney's position in the white house secretary hall of fame is assured by what he said today in the white house press briefing room about the republicans' latest budget proposal. quote, it is magic beans and fairy dust. >> i'm worried about the fiscal cliff in the same way i'm worried about martians. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal whatever it is. >> is this a rerun? >> still no progress as all sides jockey for position. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> speaker john boehner issued a downer offer yesterday. >> the white house quickly dismissed it. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> it is more of the same. >> it is not me being positive. it is the math. >> magic math. >> magic beans and fairy dust. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that far apart? >> both sides want a d
in the election. some members of the gop are pushing former congressman jc watts to run for chairman, but a lot of people in the party don't seem too hot on the idea. a leader tells our peter hamby he had no prayer. roland martin warns that responses like that could backfire. he writes even if they choose not to vote for watts, if he decides to even seek the job, it is his skin color and perspective. "outfront" tonight, jc watts. good to see you. what do you think about what role land martin had to say, that the party needs to be careful how it responds to you, considering running, thinking about race. >> well, i don't necessarily believe that the answer tis to take a black face and put him in the chair at the rnc or asian or native american. i think we have to surround ourself at the rnc and within the party, we have to understand diversity and diversity is not a bad word. i take a biblical world view on diversity. god made you white. he made me black. he made you a female. he made me a male. i think god likes diversity, so if it's good for god, it ought to be good for republicans, but the fac
working inside the elected -- the elected claim ber of the united states stat or better off resigning and becoming head of the -- head of heritage? it was a no-brainer. you know -- >> remarkable. >> financial incentiveta. but it's remarkable and shows you limits in which being a united states senator -- i've talked to other senators who made the decision to try to get into leadership track who said it's no fun trying to be party of one or gang of six or gang of eight. it stinks especially ex-governors can't stand it in there. it is sad that you don't feel as if you can make a -- as big of a difference inside the senate as you can at a special interest group. welcome to politics of the 21st century. >> i couldn't agree more, chuck. frankly i think jim demint couldn't agree more. he said, i'm leaving the senate now but i'm not leaving the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. chuck, to your point. kelly, i want to go to you. in the midst, and we'll talk about the fiscal cliff in a minu
, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called t auto bailo. and before the election, unformer. two admistrations that did that. everyone wts a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one because it s a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we voted for you, we get a bailout. >> and on the other side, detroit is in a multi-decade collapse that is beyond the scope, it's almost lik a hurricane. and i'm not saying it's totally insane for nem to get a disproportionate amount-- >> gary b, you le in maryland, should you and maryland be paying for what detroit or michigan is deciding to do with unions and pensns and how they got themselves in this mess in the first place? >> exactly, brenda. i kind of agree with jonas. i'm not sure i'd be so quick bail out cities with national catastrophes. they decided to live there and build there. but jonas it right, a lot of cities like detroit are avily unionized. they inves
actually spent $150 million. >>> the word "election" was the number one search on yahoo! this year, but don't worry because kim kardashian was still the most searched person, just in case you were. >>> and president obama and former president clinton were part of a golfing foursome sunday but no cameras were allowed. these pictures are from when they played last year. it's believed to be the president's third time hitting the links since the election. >>> finally, birther tate tried to force occidental college to release president obama's student records. the judge said no, told her, quote, evidence is not stuff printed from the internet and ordered her to pay the college $4,000 for its trouble. >>> and that is your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> and now for a check on wall street this monday morning. the dow opens this week at 13,025 after gaining 3 points friday. the s&p was up a fraction. the nasdaq lost 1. overseas, the nikkei added 12, and the hang seng dropped 262. >>> investors and traders keep tabs on statement out of this week's fiscal cliff talks, they'll also be watchi
it seem to you that the president feels as though he has some leverage here? he won the election, right? >> he did. >> maybe that accounts for what's in his proposal. >> yeah. this is clearly a different president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs
? >> well, piers, as you know, there were a number of efforts before the election to get this done and there were major differences between the parties, and those parties became a big part of the conversation during the presidential debate. the president could not have been clearer that he wanted to do two things. he wanted to boost economic growth by doing things like investing in our infrastructure which used to be a bipartisan idea, but also, extending middle class tax cuts and as you said, asking the wealthiest to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. that was part of the conversation. so we would hope that the election would break a little bit of this logjam. obviously that hasn't happened yet. the president's put his plan on the table. i'm still very hopeful, piers, that we'll get there. i agree with you, it would be better to get there sooner rather than later. time is running out. no doubt about it. >> one of the big problems it seems to me is the relationship between john boehner and barack obama. just seems deeply flawed. they're at a party and they couldn't be bot
in that statement, tyler, is the president's feeling that he's got the upper hand having won the election and also that many in the financial community, the business community, are very sympathetic to the argument that he was making just on that point on the debt limit. >> john harwood, thank you very much. with lawmakers now leaving capitol hill to start a long weekend, what's the likelihood that a divided congress can get a deal on the fiscal cliff before we hit it. represents tim walls is a democrat from minnesota who filed a petition yesterday to force a vote on extending tax cuts for the middle class. congressman, good to have you with us. >> thanks for having me. >> i have to say that the optic beioptics of congressman leaving the capitol right now for another long weekend is extraordinary poor. it is disappointing and to many it is outraging. what do you say? >> i think it is outrageous. i couldn't agree with you more on that. these are good folks. each one of us was elected to represent 650,000 people. i heard it -- i think everyone of the other floor members heard it -- they're tired of t
the election, romney's stayed mostly out of the spotlight and pretty quiet. he and paul ryan met with president obama in washington last week. >>> witnesses say it was terrifying, a crushing tunnel collapse about 50 miles west of tokyo. authorities have recovered nine bodies, most of them from burned vehicles. experts say aging parts in the tunnel could be to blame. the disaster has prompted japanese officials to order emergency inspections of dudsens of other tunnels with similar designs across the country. >>> and here's a sign of the times. the pope is on twitter. the vatican today revealed pope benedict's personal handle is @pontifacts. the vatican said the pope believes the catholic church must be present in the digital arena. that's going to be hard to answer a question about faith in 140 characters. >> he'll probably have 1 million followers in two hours. >> he has more than 230,000 followers and he hasn't even had a single tweet. his name means bridge builder in latin. another name for the pope. >> yeah. i'll follow him. >> i will as well. >> are thank you very much. maybe if i follow h
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